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Subject: Betvictor affiliate warning

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    Betvictor Affiliate

    The affiliate program and the contact with those responsible, whom we also got to know personally, convinced us at first, but after a while they showed their true colors. accounts become inaktiv set. For a company that wants to establish itself with its product Betvictor on the German market, a very bad tool to convince partners to advertise Betvictor.

    For the following reasons we award a NoGo to Betvictor - Affiliate....

    Accounts will be made inactive without prior notice. Despite communication and more active Promotion accounts are unexpectedly downgraded and closed by people who don't seem to have the foggiest idea of ​​a partnership. When asked, it was only said that these are our conditions. Ultimately, this led us to discontinue our partnership with this company. Another disadvantage is the acknowledgment that a credit bureau report is allegedly obtained beforehand for casino payouts. For these reasons we do not recommend the casino to our readers and members either.

    We clearly say... NoGo to "Betvictor - Affiliate"

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    So I guess I'm in a different boat somehow.

    I can only report positive things here. Super contact to the "affiliate manager". Never had any inactivity issues. Normal commission payments. And "negative carry over" (you mean negative carry over, don't you?) doesn't exist either.

    What does "you" always do to form such an opinion...
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    What does "you" always do to form such an opinion...
    That is always in the eye of the beholder and of course we are happy for affiliates who have no problems with the partner programs they use. It is also the case that you will read different opinions on different portals. In our team, on the one hand, we talk about our own knowledge and, on the other hand, these are long experiences that we have summarized globally.
    What is important to us is that we disclose everything when partner programs are not working properly. Unfortunately, it is the case with betvictor that they act very sneakily. Affiliates are often satisfied as long as the income is running and do not worry about their provider. Especially beginners in this area are often at the mercy of the partner program without knowing it.

    betvictor:

    Positive:
    • No problems as long as you play their game

    Negative:

    • Payouts rarely on time
    • Accounts closure for "alleged" inactivity
    • No or (if already closed) advance warning from AM to its customers


    Two of the key points in the T&Cs that affiliates are hammered into the pan:

    1. 2.16 Continuous Advertising

      BetVictor reserves the right to adjust affiliate commissions and/or close accounts that are not used to continuously and actively promote BetVictor.

      BetVictor also reserves the right to close the Affiliate's account and withhold initial commissions when related to affiliates, who did not refer at least one depositing player per calendar month and/or accounts associated with only a single active player.



    1. 3.5 Inactive Accounts

      BetVictor reserves the right to Withhold commissions and close any affiliate account that appears to have been inactive for a period of three months or more. Decisions regarding inactivity are at the discretion of the BetVictor affiliate team, however last login date, number of clicks, number of images and referrals will all affect the decision.

    Source: BetVictor Affiliates - Terms & Conditions Page 1
    Unfortunately, such points are always at the discretion of the provider when and how they are implemented. It is only important for us to point out that they will be implemented. For one or the other affiliate, long work can be wasted overnight!
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    But these rules are common practice for many people. If I don't bring any new players for several months.. What am I supposed to do as an advertising partner?

    Of course, if accounts are closed during active advertising, that's crap. But I can't always imagine that they won't let you talk to them. It could also be a mistake.
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    Quote Posted by freakspin View Post
    So I guess I'm in a different boat somehow.

    I can only report positive things here. Super contact to the "affiliate manager". Never had any inactivity issues. Normal commission payments. And "negative carry over" (you mean negative carry over, don't you?) doesn't exist either.

    What does "you" always do to form such an opinion...

    The negative carry was of course a small mistake that was already corrected in the article.

    Regarding Betvictor, we can also confirm that initially the contact was completely fine, up to the point where accounts just became inaccessible.

    When asked, the reason given was inactivity, despite active promotion and communication. Sometimes certain things need a little time (Google etc.) but Betvictor was probably too impatient and the decision was made by a person who apparently only cares about numbers and the explicit compliance with their conditions. Perhaps we should discuss the word inactivity.

    The mere fact that Schufa information is obtained is very strange and an absolute no-go for us!

    Since we haven't brought many players in these 4-6 months, the damage for us was therefore small but the reputation for Betvictor will hopefully suffer even more from the release (at least for the German market ).

    It is good that you are satisfied and taking a stand for Betvictor. But that's also a bit obvious, since you mainly advertise for NetEntertainment casinos and it seems to work well for you too.

    Not every casino runs equally well with everyone, you have to make a distinction. But as already mentioned in another thread, there will always be different opinions and experiences, ours was extremely negative and we make that public.

    Quote Posted by freakspin View Post
    But these rules are common practice for many people. If I don't bring any new players for several months.. What am I supposed to do as an advertising partner?
    Yes, some think they absolutely have to have this clause or introduce it later. If you only want to have big partners, then you should turn to the handful right away, you don't need an affiliate program for that, you could negotiate that individually.

    Then there are still those who have also introduced this clause but interpret it in a more partner-friendly manner.

    When you make a deal with someone, you also strive (at least we do) to actively promote it. We tried that, with the negative outcome mentioned. Just because initially little or no players are generated does not mean that we would no longer promote a casino. There is no risk at all and it makes no sense to torpedo the chance with such an action on the part of the partner program. Betvictor didn't do us any harm with that, they peed their own foot with that, to put it bluntly.

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    Of course, if accounts are closed during active advertising, that's crap. But I can't always imagine that they won't let you talk to them. It could also be a mistake.
    But you can't deal with partners like that and it's no use offering the partner to leave the account open for another month. The AM was well informed about the accounts, but he wasn't particularly interested because he said he couldn't do anything about it.

    We definitely don't need such partners.
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    Ok, if that's how it goes, that's really crap. No question..
    As said; I've actually never had such a bad experience anywhere and that's probably why it's always so difficult to imagine it.

    I think it's good that everyone shares their experience. Certainly always helpful for newcomers. Let's see what comes next..
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