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    profibull

    Has anyone had any experience with the provider or this group? I hardly think?

    The site is virtually identical to the former "bwin offshoot" premiumbull (after bwin closed for Swiss, the access data for the VIP accounts etc. were transferred directly to premiumbull. After that (approx. 1 year) premiumbull also closed its site completely).

    Now I'm a bit undecided whether I should test the provider or not. In any case, the Curaçao license is (for me personally) not an exclusion criterion.

    Who knows the group or has experience with it?
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    Re: profibull

    I was also interested, I chatted with support and asked who was behind it, it wasn't easy.

    Agent (03/05/2021, 16:05:05): Welcome to Profibull! My name is Bella. How can I help you?
    Me (03/05/2021, 16:05:53): Hey, im new customer. where can i find info about the company behind profibull, just to make sure you are solid? secondly, u allow customer from switzerland?
    Agent (03/05/2021, 16:06:26): Hello and thank you. Please let me know your full name and date of birth for verification so I can look in to it. Thank you
    Me (03/05/2021, 16:06:57): ---
    Agent (03/05/2021, 16:07:17): Thank you for the verification. Please bear with me while I check your request. Thank you
    Me (03/05/2021, 16:10:31): ok
    Agent (03/05/2021, 16:11:19): Thank you for your patience Mr.. I can see that you have successfully registered to our Profibull webpage today and you have created an account. Profibull webpage is available for customers only from Switzerland. As for the terms and conditions I would like to refer to this webpage https://en.profibull.com/help/rules-terms where you can find our general terms and conditions and under number 4 our license.
    Me (03/05/2021, 16:11:58): ok, but which company is behind this offer bwin?
    Agent (03/05/2021, 16:13:03): I am sorry I do not have any information regarding "bwin" The webpage is Profibull and it is not connected to bwin.
    Agent (03/05/2021, 16:15:35): There is also information regarding privacy policy and how we collect the necessary data/cookies https://en.profibull.com/help/privacy-policy
    Me (03/05/2021, 16:16:01): ok so who is it? name and where are u located? i just ask because i want to be sure before i deposit
    Me (03/05/2021, 16:17:21): sorry to be annoying
    Agent (03/05/2021, 16:18:57): You are not annoying at all, don't worries, let me please check because I am not entirely sure what do you mean by "so who is it" - sorry about that. Will try to find out more information, just bear with me please. Thank you.
    Me (03/05/2021, 16:20:12): ok thanks I will wait
    Agent (03/05/2021, 16:25:05): Thank you for your patience. I have checked and I can confirm that Profibull is our webpage (we are new). As for the location we are working from Dublin.
    Me (03/05/2021, 16:27:59): ok, how can it be proved that you are company of good standing?so I know my payments are safe?
    Agent (03/05/2021, 16:31:37): All terms and conditions and rules can be reviewed via this link https://en.profibull.com/help/rules-terms where you can also find our license obligation. Your payments are safe with us.
    Me (03/05/2021, 16:31:54): ok thanks for your help
    Me (03/05/2021, 16:32:05): do you have a permit for switzerland?
    Agent (03/05/2021, 16:33:39): Thank you, please see the license details:-2021 Lunaria BV Zuikertuintjeweg Z/N, Zuikertuin Tower, Unit 2B, Curacao. All rights reserved.
    No part of this website may be reproduced, sold, or otherwise used for any commercial purpose.


    Lunaria BV is a private limited liability company having its registered address at Zuikertuintjeweg Z/N, Zuikertuin Tower, Unit 2B , Curacao, and is registered in the Commercial register of Curacao having Company no. 155609, for which has been granted a sublicense by CIL Curacao Interactive Licensing NV pursuant to Master Gaming License #5536/JAZ.
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    Re: profibull

    So I've now tested the store - relatively successfully at first: won with a first deposit of CHF 50, played up to a good CHF 9300 the same day, then down again to zero. I then gambled again without any further deposit with a turnover reward premium (70CHF) up to 5k, in the end at least 520CHF were successfully paid out (afterward it was buttered back in so that a total of +/- balance came out, but that doesn’t matter )

    was paid by bank transfer which took 4 or 5 days. the account where the payment came from was malta.

    at that time, premiumbull (identical site more or less like profibull now) officially had nothing to do with bwin, even if the login data were taken directly from bwin.

    if only for CH players it's done for you anyway

    conclusion: positive. will continue to play there. for me personally (!) the supplier is more reputable than the majority of stores with mga license. but this is based on my subjective opinion, and is not to be understood in general terms.

    here is another picture (almost paid a part there; unfortunately I didn't have my account details to hand at the moment and stuff like that)

    For me, as I said, nothing speaks against the provider. the only thing i think is problematic would be in the case of particularly high wins: the payout limit per transaction is specified as 10k, there are no win limits in the general terms and conditions, etc., but when push comes to shove (e.g. assumed I would have bought free spins on max bet and it would have really banged), I was still queasy if they really did a 5k bank transfer 10+ days in a row..

    but as I said: I would still be more comfortable there than in most mga casinos with the same starting position..
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    Re: profibull

    The provider has turned out to be completely serious and recommendable.
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    Re: profibull

    I've never heard that they also allow players from Germany, you're from Switzerland!
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    Re: profibull

    To my knowledge: no.
    At least a new registration there seems to be only possible after a previous invitation from the provider, but I don't know exactly what it looks like for Germans in general. But I don't know any German players who could register there. The provider used to be called premiumbull and was the successor to bwin yellow member (today probably VIP or premium, I think) from Switzerland, ie after a change in the law and network restrictions, you could use your bwin login data to log in directly to the register page. In any case, I've only had positive experiences with profibull, it actually even belongs to one of my three main casinos.
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