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Subject: Why play with a bonus?

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    Exclamation Why play with a bonus?

    Again and again I read in different places that it is impossible to really play bonuses freely, that you only want to lure them with them but never want to pay them out and many, many other complaints.

    I keep asking myself why do players claim a bonus at all?

    I'll start by saying that it's very noticeable that it's always the same players who complain and claim not to gamble anymore and then collect some bonuses or free spins again. The whole thing contradicts itself so much and some other players show up, moan around, talk about cheating but it's all pretty baseless!

    Basically, let's note the following!

    1. In every casino you have to verify yourself sooner or later. Means ID card copy and proof of address. For credit card depositors, also a copy of the payments made.

    Why do casinos do this? From chicane?

    No, each online Casino is obliged to its licensor to check persons.

    1. Age, i.e. over 18 years
    2. Residence as many countries are barred from playing.
    3. Money laundering, therefore mostly only payouts on the same deposit type.
    4. Identity theft, often used when credit cards are misused

    As a counterexample, you also have to show your ID in every land-based casino, which will be scanned. And in some cases also have to provide proof of salary, aka player protection!
    So nothing else like in online casinos also.

    It doesn't matter where the casinos are located. Whether Malta, Gibraltar or anywhere else. The licensors determine the conditions that must be met. However, you have to admit one thing, if there are problems, it is difficult to get on with it online Casino to get to it. Again, it doesn't matter where the actual seat or license determiner is located. Malta is no exception, no license from Schleswig Holstein. Don't be fooled by such window dressing, the casinos are still in Malta, Gibraltar or somewhere else.

    But back to the bonuses!

    Why do players who keep complaining take advantage of bonuses or the brazen "no deposit" bums who never deposit a cent but complain when a payout is pending and then they are supposed to send papers?

    1. A no deposit bonus always costs the casino fees to the provider and yet they are offered so that players can get to know the casino. A smart idea, if it weren't for the bonus hunters who have exploited this for years and thus the offers have been so restricted that you can only pay out a small amount of winnings and the playthrough conditions have been set extremely high.

    2. Deposit bonuses are also a good story to give a casino a closer look. Of course, not every offer makes sense and you should carefully consider redeeming one or the other. With often 25 times the turnover of deposit and bonus, it is then rather the somewhat larger offers, 50% or 100% offers that are really worthwhile if you are also willing to deposit from €50 and more. Anything below that can only be played through mathematically with a lot of luck.

    But the most important are the Bonus terms, which are often forgotten. online casinos You have to protect yourself here too, in the past you simply played through bonuses with black/red in roulette or simply used the highest possible spin possibilities to set the maximum payout rate. Here, too, bonus hunters have been put aside for a long time!

    Of course it still exists today online casinos who make it a point that you never have a chance to get a payout with a bonus, hidden clauses are simply inserted that make "winning" impossible. An example is something like Staybet Casino, which doesn't allow playing higher stakes like 5� after fulfilling the conditions, which is an absolute joke as there can be no more conditions after a bonus. But that's exactly what they have anchored in their terms and conditions. Therefore, the top priority is that anyone who takes a bonus should also know all the conditions very well.

    And for everyone else, just play with no bonus, stop scrounging and complaining. We often help exactly such players to get their money, which takes a lot of time and effort and ultimately turns out that exactly those rules were broken that you didn't read.
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    AW: Why do you play with a bonus?

    I like to play with a bonus, because that way you can get to know the games well and simply have more, better and higher possibilities. In my opinion, it has proven to be good to take the bonus and play the games you like and want to try and then make a deposit without a bonus and then implement the experience. I've also used the opportunity with a bonus to consciously play for a jackpot - which I rarely do without a bonus. I think bonuses are good - but you have to know the conditions and not complain if you violate them, which has happened to me a few times.
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    AW: Why do you play with a bonus?

    It's different for me, although I'm actually also a bonus player. It really depends on what the bonus percentage is though, I wouldn't claim a bonus for 10% or 20%. But I also often play without a bonus and only use it where it is worthwhile.

    Sometimes you also get offers that you want to accept but are not automatically credited. In these cases I don't bother and therefore contact the support, but just play with my deposit.

    In principle, almera has already given the answer to the question of why you play with a bonus. It simply offers more options, you have more fun, etc. Of course, you can unlock a bonus, but as already mentioned, it also depends on the conditions. Progressive jackpot games should be avoided during a bonus period unless you know for a fact that these games are legal.

    Unlocking a bonus is not easy and it doesn't always work, that's for sure. But the higher the balance (including bonus) and the necessary luck, the easier it becomes in my opinion. If you have a run you will wager and clear almost every bonus.

    Players always have the feeling when playing with bonus that it is good at first and then gets worse and worse as you get close to fulfilling the bonus wager. If you manage to do it anyway, there is usually not much left that you could pay out. Nevertheless, bonuses can also be implemented quickly if you have chosen the right game, the right stake and a bit of luck. This is only possible if you are willing to risk a little more.

    Fulfilling a bonus with small stakes is almost impossible, because even small stakes go down permanently and one does not achieve the winnings that would be necessary to increase the balance and to extend the game in order to ultimately meet the wagering requirements.

    The following can be said about the bonus offers without a deposit (no deposit): At the very beginning, as a real-money player, I also used it here and there, but at that time under completely different requirements and conditions, but those times are long gone.

    Casinos like to use this type of bonus as a promotion to get players to sign up and play at the casino. But over time, the casinos also had to realize that this form of bonus was being abused and that they could not generate any profits from it, on the contrary, the casinos only had costs but no income because there were more and more users over time Only wanted to play with free money but didn't want to play with real money.

    So you had to come up with something, you not only limited these offers but also imposed worse conditions. Even today there are still corresponding offers here and there, but to be honest, in my opinion this is only a good story for the so-called low bet players (players who play with small stakes).

    Even for new players who are willing to play with real money, this is not a good option, because as is so often the case, users who are new to online casinos also play "Beginner's Luck" and being lucky with a no deposit bonus but only getting a maximum payout of €50 or €100 would be very annoying.

    So I advise new real money players to start with a small deposit of maybe €50 and use the deposit bonus. You don't have to overdo it with the first deposit. Most of the time, the welcome offers consist of a package that allows you to receive a reasonable bonus spread over several deposits and thus not run the risk of only getting a limited payout if you win.

    As an avid gambler I've had many years of experience and I have to tell you that I've never had any major problems with bonus wagering or refusal to withdraw due to illegal play.

    Of course, as a player, you can make a mistake during the bonus phase and accidentally press the wrong button if your mouse slips on the pad or something similar. When that happens you think, oh god, now you've broken the terms, now what? I tell you, that's not bad at all and if it's a reputable and transparent casino, then the people who check your bonus game, your bonus turnover, i.e. the course of the game, will also recognize that it was just an accident and not intentional .

    The problem isn't solved well either, or maybe even deliberately set that way, because the biggest mistake that can happen is when you hit the spin button.
    99% of the time this button is right next to the button for maximum bet and it can quickly happen that you slip and press this button by mistake.

    Then Holland is in trouble and you think: shit, what are you doing now? Should you inform the support about it? Or just wait? It's not just that the money is gone at maximum bet at that moment, but also the anxious question of whether they will process a payout in the event of a win as normal or not?

    Personally, I have always waited and everything has always turned out well. But you can't be 100% sure, because there are also casinos, as already described by Spielo, who aim to ensure that a game with a bonus will never be successful, have hidden clauses or lousy, consciously created conditions to prevent this To be able to charge players with anything at any time in order to confiscate any winnings. Of course, this only happens when the casino or the officials see when a player has won and wants to request a withdrawal.

    We try to warn against these dubious casinos, which doesn't always work, because casinos change their terms and conditions or bonus conditions here and there, to the detriment of the players, which unfortunately you don't always notice immediately or only when it does child has already fallen into the well.

    My conclusion and my advice from this topic: You can play with a bonus, but not every bonus is worthwhile or makes sense. Converting and fulfilling a bonus is of course possible. One should Bonus terms read carefully and know what is allowed. (also applies to experienced players playing with bonus)

    New players who are in online casinos If you want to try it with real money, I advise you to use the first deposit bonus or the welcome bonus package and then, if you like it, other offers.

    You should also deposit and play without a bonus from time to time, because casinos don't like it that much if you only play with a bonus and certainly not if you win with it often, because that can result in you no longer receives any bonus offers, at least not to the same extent as before.

    No deposit offers are only suitable for new players who are playing for the first time ever online Casino play and be happy with a payout of €50-€100, or for players who play with small stakes and the same applies to them.

    There will always be enough people who want to take advantage of free offers and are not willing to invest even a single cent of their own money. For me they are not players, but plain and simple, as already mentioned in the opening post, "scroungers" who possibly also act like that in real life.

    You could write a whole book about it and sorry for the somewhat longer post, but when I first start writing about a topic that I am reasonably familiar with, then thousands of things come to mind about it. I hope one or the other will get my point of view and experience in dealing with online casinos and online Casino take bonus, Ja or No ? help you to make the right decision and choice for you.
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    Exclamation AW: Why do you play with a bonus?

    I actually claim a bonus much less often than I used to; and if so, then only if it is at least 100% and the wager requirements are no more than 40x the bonus (8without deposit).

    Even then, it's usually difficult. I'm a classic low roller and the bonus is never really worth it. If I do have one at the start, I will - planned - be a little braver and gamble with bets between 1-4�. Sometimes it works, but most of the time it doesn't.
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    i think your article is good, it doesn't matter that it's long - but i just saw that you have a new hp: slotti's world - that's interesting - i would have wished for something like that as a beginner. great thank you!
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    AW: Why do you play with a bonus?

    In addition to the no deposit offers which....as I mentioned earlier, have been made pretty uninteresting by and large by bonus hunters and scroungers. There are of course a few exceptions, but these are only of interest if you are a real depositing player and, as a thank you from the casino, get free money into your account here and there. I have to speak a little from my own experience!

    In a Playtech casino, a free bonus (no deposit) of €200 was credited to my account every month. Conditions were the same as a normal bonus, so 40x bonus wagering! Or in an RTG I still get weekly no deposit bonuses that range up to 500US and, as is known, have to be implemented 60 times at RTG. However, I have often played these bonuses for free, since there is no maximum bet limit, so spins of 12,50 to 25 are not uncommon and the winnings are correspondingly high. With such bets, a 60x playthrough can also be played through!

    But honestly, a casino only offers something like that if you are a good customer and have already been around with some real money. Something like that won't happen to the little grumbling scrounger... because the casinos really don't need people like that. Either you play for fun, which you can also do in fun mode in any casino, or you play with fair means, which means playing with real money and not hoping that someone will give me something and then withdraw money!

    Sorry, but that's the truth!
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