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    Avatar of Glumbi
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    Much Better

    Have you heard of MuchBetter?


    I just saw an advertisement on facebook that is aimed at people who play online, it even says: Neteller or Skrill customer? Come to MuchBetter!

    Then everything comes in English, I don't have time anymore because I have to look at everything then but I haven't heard about it yet.

    Here is the promotional image on Facebook:

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    Thumbs up RE: MuchBetter

    This app is currently only available in the UK and has something to do with gifts, bonuses and online shops. Why they associate this with Skrill or Neteller is a mystery to me. At the moment only bank transfer is possible anyway. This is a purely online operation without telephone contact (e-mail only). Supposed to be available all over the world but they don't have a list and say it's only available in UK. It's not at all clear to me what kind of target group they are focused on.

    They do advertise online gaming and lower fees but it's not mature at all. For that it would have to be available as a payment option at most online gaming companies, otherwise it's a shot backwards. Supposedly you get rewards points for the use and deposit of €100 each. So far, only advertising partners are Royal Panda, Lottoland, Finnplay and Pinnacle, which are not even linked yet. The low fees are certainly an argument but useless if the gaming companies don't offer it or it's restricted to countries.

    Bringing such an app onto the market without having won enough potential providers for it is already a risk. Therefore, at the moment completely uninteresting for customers in the online gaming area. I'd rather pay a few more fees and know what I have and that I can use it almost anywhere. I think they would have failed completely when they were introduced and presented to investors.
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    RE: MuchBetter

    That is already outrageous to give the impression that you have a totally competitive product, which is more like an air number. Thus it is not worthwhile to deal with it in more detail.
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    RE: MuchBetter

    Hello everyone - first off - I'm part of the MuchBetter team. I saw this entry from you while googling and thought I might be able to contribute a few details about our payment service - completely neutral and without advertising. Info never hurts.

    MuchBetter is a relatively new payment service. The team behind MuchBetter comes from the gaming and payment industry. MuchBetter has now been on the market for around 9 months and is an international product. Currently we have our app in 155 countries. Depending on the individual situation and the availability of payment options in the respective countries, acceptance develops at different speeds. In Germany there are many alternatives for depositing and withdrawing money in gaming, i.e. the competition here is correspondingly strong. Compared to the other wallets, MuchBetter is actually cheaper - for providers as well as customers. The prepaid card for the wallet is also free (except withdraw money and FX). If you feel like it, just try it out, there are many small details that make all the difference. Again to the acceptance - unfortunately it always takes a long time to get a certain, critical mass of customers and providers on board. Everyone starts small To name a few partners where MuchBetter is already accepted: Pokerstars, FullTilt, Sunmaker, 888-Brands, Microgaming Casinos, Pinnacle, LVbet etc as well as many smaller and medium-sized casinos. In other words, in the 9 months we have actually achieved a lot and integrated some of the largest gaming brands worldwide. New partners are added every week. Anyone who has tried MuchBetter and would like to use it at their favorite casino is welcome to give us input here. MuchBetter has already won several industry awards in its short history and is a payment method that will be represented in gaming in the long term - that's the plan! So, give us a chance, not so negative - download the app once and have a look, then feel free to give us feedback! And - if you are interested, we will give you a MuchBetter key-fob for contactless payment free of charge. Is a nice addition to use MuchBetter in everyday life. LG, John
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    RE: MuchBetter

    Hi John, first of all, welcome to our platform. Thank you for taking the trouble to introduce your product to us. Unfortunately, the explanations are not enough for me and you have not addressed the points/details mentioned or found on your website.

    But maybe you could explain it more precisely for the area of ​​online gaming and only for this area. I think what interests us here is the process, availability, list of gaming partner names, verification, ATM withdrawals yes/no, etc. The fees seem to be really lower, huh you have already written.

    I have already found the product at individual dealers (Microgaming Casinos), but it would not really make sense if you could not have your credit paid out via ATMs, for example, but only via bank transfer. I think most people wouldn't like that. Neteller, Skrill, ecoPayz have a clear advantage here, even when it comes to higher fees. But that's exactly what users tend to accept when it comes to a certain anonymity. Many simply do not want it to go through the house bank and especially not when it comes to larger sums. With smaller sums that would be okay but also more cumbersome when it comes to depositing at MuchBetter.

    Now you just use the credit on the e-wallets to pay in and out or withdraw if necessary. There may also be one or the other user who prefers bank transfer, but these are probably the fewest.

    So it would certainly be a good idea to go into it a little more closely and tell us your vision or the advantage over other payment providers. I can also well imagine that gaming alone was not necessarily your goal when founding the product.

    I would wish for a simple explanation of the process, what exactly the user has to do to use the product. And why is this product only available in English and Russian versions?
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    RE: MuchBetter

    Hallo,

    The easiest way to explain the product would be with a graphic - but I'll try to explain it briefly - and only with reference to online gaming:

    MuchBetter is an e-money account (wallet) just like Skrill or Neteller etc. Licensed and regulated under the European e-Money Directive.
    MuchBetter is only available as an app - for Apple and Android.
    You can top up the MuchBetter account in Germany with: Sofort, bank transfer, Trustly, cash (yes, cash!), Visa, Mastercard, Bitcoin, Ether, BTC, Giropay (currently deactivated because the flow is not optimal in an app ).
    Credit in MuchBetter can be paid out by bank transfer to your own bank account or with the free MuchBetter Prepaid Mastercard at an ATM or just go shopping with the card. In addition, in the future (October) it will also be possible to pay out in BTC and Bitcoin.
    You can make the following transactions with MuchBetter: deposit directly with online gaming providers (just one "tap" in the app), send money to any phone number or request money (P2P). Receive money from online gaming providers. Thus, the wallet does everything that Skrill or Neteller does - only faster, better and cheaper.
    The prepaid Mastercard can be ordered in the app and will be sent home by post. The card is free, only ATM fees of 1% exist. If a foreign currency transaction is made using the card or MuchBetter account, a 0.99% fee will apply. That's a whopping 3% less than NT or Skrill.

    Sending or requesting money to friends is also completely free.

    At the moment, all deposits in Germany at MuchBetter with Sofort, Trustly, credit cards are free of charge until the end of the year - so NO fees. After this promotional period, the following deposit fees will apply:
    Credit cards - 1.65%
    Immediately - 1,5%
    Trustly 1,5%
    Cash - 5%
    crypto - 2%
    Bank transfer - free of charge

    Our focus is gaming, but the product is designed in such a way that it can also be used sensibly in other markets in the future.
    The contactless (NFC) tag we have is just a prepaid card in a "different format". This is simply a gadget that is convenient and useful. Doesn't have anything to do with gaming, but you can use this trailer to simply pay with the MuchBetter credit anywhere at the cash register. So you always have money on your bunch of keys. Go jogging in the morning - you don't take your wallet with you, usually not even your cell phone. But the key, you have to get back in at home. On the way back buy some rolls or a coffee or a water, pay contactless with the bunch of keys....

    Our Prepaid Mastercard has a dynamic CVV - this means that if you use the card for online purchases, a new, dynamic CVV will be generated in the app each time. If you lose the card, it cannot be used online by third parties - as the CVV is missing. The card can be activated and deactivated in the app. One "tap" and the card is inactive. For example if you lost or misplaced it. Found again? - Simply activate it again in the app with a "tap".

    Unlike Skrill and Neteller etc, MuchBetter uses NO passwords, no security questions, no ID, no email addresses etc. Only Touch ID (or who prefers passcode).

    How do I pay at the casino with MuchBetter?
    Simply select the "MuchBetter" payment method, enter your mobile phone number and press OK. You get a push message on your phone, click on it, the MuchBetter app opens (with Touch ID) and you see a payment request from the casino. Just tap the "Send" button and that's it. No re-direct, no login, no password - all super convenient but at the same time highly secure.

    Security: The app uses device authentication/pairing, touch ID, the phone number is verified once by a one-time code.

    Casino withdrawals. Just select the amount and select MuchBetter as the withdrawal option. Money goes straight to the Muchbetter account.

    Times at Stars or Sunmaker try it - takes less than 3 seconds. Unless the provider makes additional manual checks.

    Cash top-up of the MuchBetter account - no one else has that - try it out in the app. You can deposit cash into your MuchBetter account directly and in real time at almost every gas station in Germany.

    Last but not least - the German version of the website will be online at the end of this week, so hopefully it will then be a little clearer how and what and for whom MuchBetter stands.

    Greetings,
    John
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    RE: MuchBetter

    Thank you very much for the detailed explanation. At the same time I downloaded and registered the app. So far everything has worked well, easily and quickly. When it comes to verification, if you want to increase the account limits, which are currently €110 or €220 per day/month, you have to scan documents. I canceled it first, whereupon an e-mail came that the document check failed and that proof of address, a photo of yourself, and proof of identity also arrived verfication@muchbetter.com can send.

    When testing a deposit via bank transfer, you cannot select a normal online bank transfer, only Trustly online banking is available. You can enter the sort code of the bank and it will also be displayed (in my case), so far okay, but during the execution the message comes up: No account with sufficient credit

    Do you have to be registered with Trustly now or is it due to the missing verification? Otherwise there is the option Sofort (depending on the bank), credit card, CashCode and Bitcoin, that's it. You might have to try CashCode, but with a 5% fee it's pretty steep and is probably out of the question for most people.

    However, the other providers are not sleeping either and so Trustly and Klarna are increasingly coming into play as competitors, both providers from Sweden. The question is, with whom is it easiest to fund an account and not fail at a bank-dependent hurdle, availability in online casinos, the verification, a well-functioning and accessible support, reliability and transparency as well as a fee and thus a customer-friendly product for this type of payment.
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    RE: MuchBetter

    I also have to say that a lot has already been achieved here in a few months, but unfortunately that's still not enough for me and should be available in all OC's. An important step would be to offer your site in German.
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    RE: MuchBetter

    As mentioned in my last post, the MuchBetter website will be available in German by the end of this week. The app itself is of course already available in German.

    It is not clear to me at the moment why there was an error with the Trustly top-up, but I would like to take a look. Contact Slotti directly.

    Acceptance - yes, if it were easy to create large-scale coverage with all providers in such a short time - then everyone would do it Unfortunately, this is very time-consuming and always depends on the provider's priorities, roadmap, planning, etc., whether and when MuchBetter can be technically connected.

    We will have a representative from MuchBetter here with you who will also keep you updated on new partners, features and promos.
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    RE: MuchBetter

    Quote Posted by MuchBetter John View Post
    As mentioned in my last post, the MuchBetter website will be available in German by the end of this week. The app itself is of course already available in German.
    Is also necessary, because there is currently too much mix of German and English on the website.

    Quote Posted by MuchBetter John View Post
    It is not clear to me at the moment why there was an error with the Trustly top-up, but I would like to take a look. Contact Slotti directly.
    We exchange ideas!

    Quote Posted by MuchBetter John View Post
    Acceptance - yes, if it were easy to create large-scale coverage with all providers in such a short time - then everyone would do it Unfortunately, this is very time-consuming and always depends on the provider's priorities, roadmap, planning, etc., whether and when MuchBetter can be technically connected.
    Yes, we are also aware that it is time-consuming, unfortunately the dealers are not always the fastest.

    Quote Posted by MuchBetter John View Post
    We will have a representative from MuchBetter here with you who will also keep you updated on new partners, features and promos.
    That sounds good
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