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playtime chris
05.12.16, 10: 43
Here you can write everything about eco/Payz!

playtime slotti
05.12.16, 10: 44
I'm afraid we'll have to look at alternatives. I took a look at ecoPayz, so far it looks pretty good because you don't need an account or Schufa for the classic account. You can apply for an eco Mastercard with which you can then also carry out transactions. Up to 3 accounts in different currencies are possible. However, you should definitely opt for a silver account right away, because you can use it to transfer money to your bank account, which is not possible with the classic account.

And that brings us to the cons: For a silver account you have to verify yourself, as with the casinos, which takes some time. Of course, as with the others, some transactions cost fees.

Payouts from the eco account are only possible to the bank account, which I find to be a very big disadvantage because it then no longer remains anonymous.

I see severe losses for Neteller and Skrill if the situation does not change again quickly. Once a customer has found a suitable alternative, that would also mean a significant loss of customers for the two e-wallets. I miss a clear statement from the Paysafe Group.

It will not be easy to find the right payment service for us, which also allows withdrawals from ATMs.

almera
05.12.16, 11: 08
That's where the crap starts again with the re-verification and requesting the card... but what do you mean by withdrawals from the eco account account are only possible to the bank account, which I find to be a very big disadvantage because it then no longer remains anonymous .?? That doesn't work any differently with a Neteller account? Can't you make cash withdrawals with the card?

playtime slotti
05.12.16, 11: 53
That's where the crap starts again with the re-verification and requesting the card... but what do you mean by withdrawals from the eco account account are only possible to the bank account, which I find to be a very big disadvantage because it then no longer remains anonymous .?? That doesn't work any differently with a Neteller account? Can't you make cash withdrawals with the card?

Yes, that's what I meant to say.

RUF_GT
05.12.16, 14: 35
entropay would be another alternative. But there I only find a "Virtual Visa Card". Are Neteller and Skrill the only eWallets with a prepaid card where you can withdraw money from ATMs? :(

IndexP
05.12.16, 19: 28
I'm afraid we'll have to look at alternatives. I took a look at ecoPayz, so far it looks pretty good because you don't need an account or Schufa for the classic account.

Maybe one of the MODs should open an extra thread for ecoPayz - and move part of the discussion along with it.

What immediately strikes me as negative about ecoPayz:
- Live chat always manned until now
- the telephone number given on the website is a 0870 number (similar to our 0180-x numbers) - and behind it there is probably only an answering machine that takes the messages. You should say what you want on tape - and therefore have all the data ready to hand.

corrosive.
And now not sooooo confidence inspiring...

playtime slotti
05.12.16, 20: 08
Maybe one of the MODs should open an extra thread for ecoPayz - and move part of the discussion along with it.

What immediately strikes me as negative about ecoPayz:
- Live chat always manned until now
- the telephone number given on the website is a 0870 number (similar to our 0180-x numbers) - and behind it there is probably only an answering machine that takes the messages. You should say what you want on tape - and therefore have all the data ready to hand.

corrosive.
And now not sooooo confidence inspiring...

I've also noticed with the chat and due to the disadvantage that you can't pay out via an ATM, that's probably out of the question.

We need a payment provider that the casinos accept/resp. is available and from which we can also withdraw money via ATMs, fees or not.

IndexP
05.12.16, 20: 54
Payouts from the eco account are only possible to the bank account, which I find to be a very big disadvantage because it then no longer remains anonymous.

Finding information about the ecoCard Mastercard is really difficult... (but I don't think it was that easy with Neteller and Skrill either)

Slotti, on the one hand there seems to be a 'Prepaid' MasterCard and a 'Virtual' MasterCard... (Note: They stole quite a few ideas from Neteller or Skrill, right?)
And in the help texts for the Prepaid MasterCard I find the following parts, which for me point to a completely normal MasterCard KK:


If your application was successful, you will receive your ecoCard at the address you provided within 21 days of your application being processed. When you receive the card, please sign the back of the card immediately and activate the card by following the steps below. As soon as you have activated your EcoCard, you can call up your PIN number online.
Step-by-step instructions for activating your ecoCard
Once you have received your ecoCard, you must activate the card before you can deposit or withdraw money.

playtime spielo
05.12.16, 21: 11
Finding information about the ecoCard Mastercard is really difficult... (but I don't think it was with Neteller (http://onca.in/casino/neteller) and Skrill (http://onca.in/casino/skrill) either). so easy)

It's already on the home page under more info...

"For even more convenience, you can apply for up to 3 ecoCards in different currencies or use our virtual cards for one-time use for additional security."

And there are also some countries that cannot register, Spain is one of them!

playtime slotti
05.12.16, 21: 31
Finding information about the ecoCard Mastercard is really difficult... (but I don't think it was that easy with Neteller and Skrill either)

Slotti, on the one hand there seems to be a 'Prepaid' MasterCard and a 'Virtual' MasterCard... (Note: They stole quite a few ideas from Neteller or Skrill, right?)
And in the help texts for the Prepaid MasterCard I find the following parts, which for me point to a completely normal MasterCard KK:

Unfortunately, this does not change the fact that payments are only possible via bank transfers.

https://www.ecopayz.com/de-de/ecopayz/help-support/quick-guides#moneytransfer

IndexP
05.12.16, 21: 37
Slotti, I think you've got a bit of a blockage right now...

You also withdraw money from the Neteller or Skrill account using the Neteller or Skrill MasterCard, right?
Similar here...

The fact that you can only transfer from the Neteller, Skrill, ecoPayz, whatever account to a bank account is irrelevant at first.

playtime slotti
05.12.16, 23: 05
Have you read anything about ATM withdrawals?
Not me, it's about whether you can use the eco prepaid Mastercard to make withdrawals via an ATM and that's probably not the case. Credit on the eco card must be transferred to the eco account in order to be able to make payments at all and only by bank transfer.
I have read that the account and Mastercard are not connected with each other like with Neteller.

Maybe I'm misinterpreting that, too. If that should be different, that would be fine, I like to be wrong. I also wanted to ask the support about it, but as you have already mentioned, it is busy.

playtime slotti
05.12.16, 23: 30
Maybe we can find out more together.

IndexP
05.12.16, 23: 55
Have you read anything about ATM withdrawals?

No I did not.
Maybe my conclusion was too hasty. That the eco MasterCard should also work at the ATM, I simply drew from the fact that you also get a PIN sent/displayed for this MasterCard. But it just occurred to me that in rare cases the credit card PIN is also requested for goods payment campaigns.

In addition, there should also be a fee structure for using the eco MasterCard at ATMs. The card issuer sets the price at the ATM.
On the other hand, nothing really surprises me anymore with ecoPayz - as much as they are stingy with (other) important information.

It remains exciting...

playtime slotti
05.12.16, 23: 57
entropay would be another alternative. But there I only find a "Virtual Visa Card". Are Neteller and Skrill the only eWallets with a prepaid card where you can withdraw money from ATMs? :(

We now have to look closely at what suits us best and, above all, whether it is also available in the casino and not just here and there. Entropay, for example, is not offered everywhere either, with ecopayz you are a bit further along.

playtime slotti
09.01.17, 18: 30
https://www.playtime-forum.info/forum/images/imported/2017/01/1.jpg (http://onca.in/casino/ecopayz)

Contrary to the assumption that ecoPayz is not suitable for us as customers because you can supposedly only pay out to your bank account, this has to be revised.
ecoPayz is currently exactly the alternative to Neteller that we were looking for.


Here are some details about this payment method:

After setting up an account, you should immediately upgrade to Silver and verify yourself. You send documents as usual or upload them to the account.
It may be that one or two documents are not recognized at first (that was the case for me too), then you either have to send a different document or one with better quality. (e.g. PDF format)

If the silver account is accepted, you should immediately apply for the ecoCard (MasterCard), which only takes a few days.

The primary account is in Euro but you can add 2 more currency accounts in USD and Pounds if you want (just by clicking on add currency account and selecting currency), then you can transfer back and forth between accounts.

You can also apply for a card for each currency, the first card will logically be the one in EUR. But only when you have received the first card and it has been activated can you request the next card.

Then there is the possibility of the virtual Ecocard, which is a card with a number for one-time use. or transfer.

The application for this virtual card takes place in the account and costs a fee of €1.80

All details such as number, validity and CVV can then be found on the card. After use, it becomes invalid and you can apply for a new one if necessary.

This virtual card is suitable for depositing money with Neteller, for example. To do this, you go to your Net account and pay in via Mastercard Credit and simply enter the data of the virtual ecoCard. The money is transferred in a matter of seconds and it is also clear that all these transactions and conversions cost fees.



View of a silver account:


https://www.playtime-forum.info/forum/images/imported/2017/01/2.jpg





Let’s get to the important part, the ATM withdrawal:

With silver status and the ecoCard, you can withdraw €24 every 750 hours, but only in increments of 250. Each payout costs €5, for €750 a whopping €15 fee.

You can have a maximum of €15.000 in your account. Should it happen that a trader transfers more to the account (maybe through profit or whatever) that's not a problem, then you just have to make sure that you pay out the difference.

If you want to upgrade to gold, then certain requirements have to be met, which you can easily check by trying it and you can already see the criteria that are already met by ticking a box or are already met .still have to be fulfilled without being marked.

It could be worthwhile to meet the conditions for this at some point, because in the important areas there are other limits and sometimes lower fees, but transferring €25.000 to dealers alone is natural already a house number.

Finally, a word about customer service.

This is not always available in German, but in principle it is during the day at normal times. The English support then also writes that.
Sometimes you are lucky and the customer service can also be reached in live chat, you can see the live chat status in the account. But it is also no guarantee for German support.

The customer service in general is actually quite quick with the answers, but it can also happen that there is only one answer a day (for the reasons mentioned above) and an e-mail written by the customer in the meantime is still pending.

My conclusion: Very good alternative to Neteller and Skrill, even if the fees here are even more important than with the two payment services, but that's the price we have to pay, at least you have an additional one first Useful method to use. If you have any further questions, you can ask them here.

If you don't want to wait to see what happens tomorrow, you should set up a secure (http://onca.in/casino/ecopayz) account (http://onca.in/casino/ecopayz) as a precaution.

IndexP
09.01.17, 23: 16
A few weeks ago I tried to get an ecoPayz account. But it didn't work with my data.
When I looked through my documents, I had a suspicion: Maybe my ancient ecoCard accounts (back then you had to open one for each currency) were blocking the creation of an ecoPayz account?
That's how it was - verified again - and after some back and forth my ecoCard/ecoPayz account was open again (after about 10 years of inactivity).
But: I don't really have a use for the account at the moment...for the reasons below.



Then there is the possibility of the virtual Ecocard, which is a card with a number for one-time use. or transfer.

The application for this virtual card takes place in the account and costs a fee of €1.80

All details such as number, validity and CVV can then be found on the card. After use, it becomes invalid and you can apply for a new one if necessary.

This virtual card is suitable for depositing money with Neteller, for example. To do this, you go to your Net account and pay in via Mastercard Credit and simply enter the data of the virtual ecoCard. The money is transferred in a matter of seconds and it is also clear that all these transactions and conversions cost fees.

I have to get rid of a few questions right away, maybe you have all of this on your screen right now:

1) How much does it cost to issue a physical ecoCard MasterCard?
2) Each issuance of a virtual MasterCard costs 1,80 euros? And after one use it is useless?

3) And does it work with the deposit on Neteller?
It's the "wrong direction" anyway...
I tried the opposite way - and wanted to deposit at ecoPayz with my Neteller MasterCard (and thus also reduce and transfer my Neteller account). But it didn't work, because you can basically only pay for goods with the Neteller MasterCard - while 'gambling and online payment service transactions' are rejected (more or less the quote from the Neteller VIP service).

Well, all the ecoPayz fees and limits are still too steep for me at the moment anyway - I hope that Skrill will work for a while and the casinos will get back together with Neteller.

playtime spielo
10.01.17, 07: 22
1) How much does it cost to issue a physical ecoCard MasterCard?
2) Each issuance of a virtual MasterCard costs 1,80 euros? And after one use it is useless?

3) And that works with the deposit on Neteller (http://onca.in/casino/neteller)?
It's the "wrong direction" anyway...
I tried the opposite way - and wanted to deposit with my Neteller (http://onca.in/casino/neteller) MasterCard at ecoPayz (and with it my Neteller (http://onca.in/casino/neteller ) account reduce and transfer). But it didn't work, because you can basically only pay for goods with the Neteller (http://onca.in/casino/neteller) MasterCard - while 'Gambling and Online Payment Service Transactions' are rejected (so more or less O -Sound of Neteller VIP service).


1. It's free, as are all other cards if you need them (different currency)
2. Just like that, it's 1.80 per card and you can only use it once. But it is probably just the solution to use your account without a plastic card.
3. No transfer would only work with a Visa or non prepaid credit card. Even when verifying a bank card, it was rejected for exactly this reason.

PS: As far as the Neteller problem is concerned, I still haven't got a meaningful answer from my VIP manager!

RUF_GT
12.01.17, 07: 41
You can't deposit money into your ecoPayz account via Sofortüberweisung, can you?

playtime slotti
13.01.17, 06: 56
Hello Rufi,

you should find this method under "Local Services"

CBJVikings
15.04.17, 10: 32
one question. I have the Eco Silver Account, but my physical card is not there yet.

I wanted to pay out at CasinoRewards and they want a 10-digit number and the name on the eco card.

So can I not pay out at all without the card or does it mean my account number at Ecopayz, e.g. one of the currency accounts as can be seen in the screenshot above?

VG

playtime slotti
16.04.17, 08: 04
one question. I have the Eco Silver Account, but my physical card is not there yet.

I wanted to pay out at CasinoRewards and they want a 10-digit number and the name on the eco card.

So can I not pay out at all without the card or does it mean my account number at Ecopayz, e.g. one of the currency accounts as can be seen in the screenshot above?

VG

Sorry, wasn't online yesterday. It is the account number of one of the currency accounts, either-or $. If you have both currencies and the casino account is in USD, for example, I would choose the account number at Eco to avoid any conversion fees within eco, even if you paid in with USD, for example. The account is the main currency because one could only transfer from this account to a bank account, for example.

CBJVikings
17.04.17, 10: 16
I asked the support.

My main account at Eco is in USD, the casino account is also in USD. So I use that because the currency conversion would cost money on the payment to the EUR account.

Can I only withdraw from one of my Eco accounts? Well, that was nowhere to be found and would also be impractical; what do I do with the Ecogeld if I can't have it paid out?

playtime slotti
19.04.17, 10: 49
I asked the support.

My main account at Eco is in USD, the casino account is also in USD. So I use that because the currency conversion would cost money on the payment to the EUR account.

Can I only withdraw from one of my Eco accounts? Well, that was nowhere to be found and would also be impractical; what do I do with the Ecogeld if I can't have it paid out?

If you only have one currency registered, then that is logically your main account. However, if you intend to transfer funds from EcoPayz to your bank account, this is only possible with the account. You also have the option of creating 3 currency accounts.

I don't need to tell you that casino accounts are now in or in USD. In your case the casino account is USD and then it makes sense with a USD currency account at Eco. In the event that a casino account is in-demand next time, it makes sense to have an Eco currency account in EUR as well.

It's just a matter of not being charged twice for any fees.

Example: If you have 2 currency accounts (EUR & USD) at Eco and you want to transfer a withdrawal from a casino account that is in USD to Eco, then it is best to enter Eco's EUR account number in order to do so to avoid internal conversion fees and thus double currency accounts. The casino charges the general and standardized OANDA conversion fee.

However, this only applies if you do not intend to transfer credit (large amounts) from Eco to the bank or if you only want to play with it. Of course, the transfer between the currency accounts at Eco costs money and you should weigh it up carefully and choose the right account numbers to avoid unnecessary fees.

The advantage of Eco is the multiple currency accounts and the individual Prepaid Mastercard to withdraw money. I myself also have 2 currencies, the third in-doesn't really make sense for us.

RUF_GT
20.04.17, 13: 56
Sofortüberweisung works, by the way, but my silver account was then blocked for a few minutes (for security reasons?) and was reopened after an email to support.

Unfortunately, the situation is different with Paysafecard. You have to open an account with mypaysafecard, enter the code there and then pay the money into ecopayz via this account. That would be fine, but when I try to top up my account with ecopayz in this way, I get the following error message:

https://www.playtime-forum.info/forum/images/imported/2017/04/hxakxqhi-1.jpg (http://www.directupload.net/)
Direct deposits into a casino via mypaysafecard work without any problems, so charging an electronic purse should probably be prevented (as with Neteller).

playtime slotti
20.04.17, 15: 09
Then ask the support call, because I can't answer that for you either. There may be a technical error.

RUF_GT
23.04.17, 15: 47
I'm in contact with Paysafecard support. So far I have neither a clear no nor a clear yes to answer my question as to whether payments from Germany are possible in this form. Have now sent screenshots of the error message.

RUF_GT
28.04.17, 19: 47
Answer from support is here:

"Dear Customer!

Thank you for your inquiry.

Is it currently not possible to use paysafecard as a means of payment with ecopayz. We ask for your understanding!

Sincerely

Your paysafecard team"

playtime slotti
03.05.17, 15: 10
Answer from support is here:

"Dear Customer!

Thank you for your inquiry.

Is it currently not possible to use paysafecard as a means of payment with ecopayz. We ask for your understanding!

Sincerely

Your paysafecard team"

I think a lot of times the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing, creating confusion for customers.

Glumbi
28.05.18, 22: 33
Information about the newly designed eco account came by email today. What I'm still missing there would be eg Giropay or something similar, so that it would be easier to pay in and possibly also pay out from the bank account.



Experience your new online account now


Dear .....

Good news! Your new and improved ecoAccount is ready for you.

Discover a brand new online account that is simpler, more user-friendly and easier to use. And as you'd expect, it's mobile-friendly so you can use it anytime, anywhere. It's a new way to manage your account.

Just log in as usual using the button below and check out your new and improved ecoAccount.

buzzi
29.05.18, 06: 59
Unfortunately, I think that you are very limited with Eco, I lack the flexibility like with Skrill or Neteller.

Glumbi
29.05.18, 08: 14
Yes, unfortunately that is correct, at the moment I could not imagine switching from Neteller.
In addition, I have already used it and everything worked.

Glumbi
29.05.18, 13: 27
I just got a notification that the old user account has been activated again for the time being, the new one has been temporarily deactivated because there are still too many problems.
In general they are fast and handle the errors quickly, but everything is still in its infancy there, at least that's the impression you get.

playtime slotti
29.05.18, 17: 37
I've had positive experiences with it, of course it's a little difficult at the beginning when you don't know everything yet, but support has always been helpful. Only the limits at the ATMs are already low, so you have to go to them several times, which of course costs fees and you have to convert it if you use the USD Master Card. I would also use this more often in places where Neteller is not available, but unfortunately the accounts there are a bit thin at the moment. To do this you would first have to win something again in order to have it transferred there, but that's easier said than done. That's the thing about winning. :(

Glumbi
29.05.18, 17: 44
Is it true, for example, that an RTG casino in iNetBet, which I have been visiting for a long time, has not offered a payment option with Neteller for some time, at least not for players from Germany. I had already paid out there on ecoPayz, everything worked and the deposit too.

The GoldenEuro Casino has been doing well in the last few weeks, I always paid in with Neteller, all of a sudden it didn't work anymore. It might also be an alternative there, but as Slotti correctly wrote, one would first have to accumulate credit on the ecoPayz account. Or simply transfer something from the bank account there, which of course involves a waiting time.

As a precaution, I had ecoPayz send me the USD and Euro Master Card, unfortunately I haven't had the opportunity to test them more closely.

Glumbi
07.06.18, 08: 01
What bothers me the most is that I can't deposit into eco directly from my bank account. So by Giropay etc. I first have to transfer money manually, which then arrives there 2-3 days later.

Or how do you do that?

Glumbi
07.06.18, 10: 44
Now I have to correct myself and say I am absolutely in favor of ecoPayz. I can imagine that some people are like me and simply don't have the overview at eco and are surprised at a lot of things, but I have just discovered how and where you can easily deposit into your ecoPayz account and I have to admit, I like it This was not known until just now.

Of course, you can pay into your ecoPayz account by credit card, the problem is that you can only use Visa, so it’s of no use to me because I don’t have one.

Now I always thought you could only deposit on ecoPayz via bank transfer, which can take 2-3 days depending on the bank and circumstances. I took a closer look at my ecoPayz account earlier and when you click on: Deposit money into my account you see the following overview:

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If you go to local bank deposit here, the available deposit options will only appear after you have entered the amount, exactly the ones I thought ecoPayz didn't offer. I have very often paid money into Neteller with Giropay, this is also possible with ecoPayz and costs "only" 1,50% fee, as an example with Neteller 1,90%



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I just tested it, works! Perfect, then I will only use ecoPayz from now on.

buzzi
09.06.18, 04: 19
Thank you Glumbi, I've never seen this option before, I thought only credit cards would do. Apparently it's not as bad as I thought.

Glumbi
09.06.18, 06: 17
With pleasure! I was surprised myself and I'm annoyed that I didn't take a closer look earlier. But now eco is fully interesting and a real alternative.

Unfortunately, you can currently only enter a Visa as a credit card there, Mastercard is not possible. It's a shame because I don't have a visa, but it's also possible without one.

By the way, in order to be able to become a Gold VIP you have to give a credit card, here too only a Visa will do. If all other conditions are met, I'll ask the support. I don't want to apply for an extra credit card. The question would be do you also accept a prepaid card?

playtime spielo
09.06.18, 07: 06
I think money laundering laws mean that master cards are no longer allowed for all ewallets, since they are always prepaid cards.

Glumbi
09.06.18, 16: 26
That's a pity, but I wouldn't apply for one just because of that. Can't mischief be done with the visa?

playtime spielo
09.06.18, 16: 40
Visa can basically only be obtained through verification, account and identity confirmation. You can get Mastercard without it, because it is mostly or always a prepaid card.

Glumbi
09.06.18, 17: 15
Hm ok that's right. And what if you had a Visa prepaid that came from your house bank?

I still have one from my bank, but I never use my other card when I need one, just not Visa.

playtime spielo
09.06.18, 17: 41
Visa is Visa, I think, I haven't noticed any difference yet. Because it is from your house bank, you are verified, credible and have a good credit rating.

Glumbi
09.06.18, 20: 58
I think so too, it's directly from the account balance, I'll try it out if it's necessary. But for the time being the gold status isn't interesting anyway, you have to have already paid in €25.000, I haven't even paid in €100 there yet. :p

playtime spielo
10.06.18, 00: 07
Compared to Neteller, Gold status is relatively easy to achieve. 25K sounds like a lot at first, but if you use the account regularly for deposits and withdrawals, it can be reached more quickly than 100K with Neteller.

Glumbi
10.06.18, 07: 23
Of course, everything is currently better than with Neteller. Only the experience with Neteller for years, actually for more than a decade, stands against a new provider, even if the new provider offers better conditions. I just have to try eco for a while now, I've never had larger winnings paid out on it and I've never withdrawn anything with the Mastercard.

Glumbi
27.06.18, 10: 27
Have you used ecoPayz more often lately? I made a few deposits with it. It will certainly take a while to get to gold status, but it's not that important for now.
I would be interested, do you use the 2-step verification there or not?

playtime spielo
27.06.18, 12: 13
I'm using it more often now, still about 8k to gold and then we'll see what advantages arise. Since I use the master cards the most from all providers, Neteller is currently the best option for me as a Gold Vip.

Glumbi
27.06.18, 21: 57
I still need over 24k so that takes even longer. I haven't used eco master cards yet. I also love the Neteller card with the high withdrawal fees.
I'm still a silver vip at Neteller, but I'll get bronze again after the year.

Glumbi
01.08.18, 09: 13
Is it actually possible to set somewhere whether you will be notified of incoming payments or not? Or have we had this before and it doesn't work? Because I was not informed of the receipt of the money from inetbet.

playtime spielo
01.08.18, 12: 16
As far as I know, there are no notifications, and you can't set them anywhere.

Glumbi
01.08.18, 12: 20
Hm something was right.. stupid would be better otherwise.

playtime spielo
02.08.18, 20: 02
Perhaps one should give such hints in the chat, they are constantly working on improvements.

Glumbi
02.08.18, 21: 17
I think we or slotti had asked for that before, if I remember correctly... but it wasn't planned. Unless I'm getting it mixed up...

ChrisKay
09.11.18, 22: 40
People wanted to pay out on ecopayz for the first time today. Registered my account with Ecopayz. I didn't do anything else there, no verification. So wanted to pay out 80 euros at an online casino. Verified ok. now the chat of the casino says this: But it was rejected by your bank.

So they want to tell me that Ecopayz is a payout from the casino. Or that ecopayz rejects payments that go to your own company? hard to imagine right?

ChrisKay
10.11.18, 01: 02
Do you have to give your account number when paying out?

Glumbi
10.11.18, 07: 01
Hi

I don't know what went wrong, but I know that you have to enter your ecoPayz account number.

playtime slotti
10.11.18, 08: 50
Do you have to give your account number when paying out?

It is the same as with the other e-wallets, always enter the number. With ecoPayz it is a primary account that can have 3 different account currencies, i.e. account numbers. Verification must also be confirmed by ecoPayz in order for funds to be transferred. I suspect it probably wasn't at the moment of payout.

RUF_GT
10.11.18, 17: 43
With a Silver Account you can suddenly no longer deposit with Klarna/Sofort. To do this, you have to upgrade to gold:

To qualify for the free upgrade you must have achieved all of the following:

Verify your credit or debit card




Verify your identity




Deposit €5.000 in total or €2.500 by card





Have an active Silver ecoAccount for at least 30 days





Transfer €25.000 in total to merchants

All other deposit methods require at least 1 business day or are not available at all. That's the end of the Neteller alternative for me. :icon_butt:

Glumbi
10.11.18, 17: 59
Yep, just saw that with the gold account, Klarna also says what it's supposed to be again...

With giropay, for example, which I used to top up from time to time, it says 0 - 3 working days, but it had been there for a long time and the money was always credited immediately.

Glumbi
14.11.18, 11: 50
Just received an email that users from Great Britain will be able to send money free of charge until the end of the year. Something like that would be nice here too. Here is an excerpt:

Hallo,



As you may know, we have partnered with Western Union - a fast, reliable and convenient money transfer service - to enable our customers to send money from the UK to friends and family around the world send, even to customers without an ecoAccount.



It's currently only available to our UK based customers (we're working on expanding to other countries soon), but you can still receive money from someone in the UK, and you can benefit from our 31-* transfer fee until December 0st!

Glumbi
21.01.19, 10: 03
The ecoPayz app has been improved and the following mail came today:


Download the new ecoPayz app now

Hi,



good news! The new and improved ecoPayz app is now available for download.



Discover a brand new app that is simpler, more enjoyable and easier to use. It's both mobile and tablet friendly, so you can use it anytime, anywhere, whether on Apple or Android devices. A refreshing new way to manage your account.



Simply download the new ecoPayz app to your smartphone or tablet from the App Store or Google Play and benefit from a whole new user experience of your account when you are on the go.

Glumbi
21.01.19, 10: 06
At first glance I don't see anything so new, but the app runs smoothly again. Recently had massive problems with the app, seems to have fixed it.

almera
04.06.19, 10: 50
hello to you - surely one or the other of you has set up an account with ecopayz. i have a problem with it. I scanned and sent a bank statement to verify my address. you don't take it, then i photographed the bank statement and you don't take it either

We must inform you that unfortunately we cannot accept your proof of residence document as it is a printed copy. Please send us the original copy in .pdf.
Please note that screenshots are not accepted.


- what do I have to do? do you have any idea? how did you arrange that?

almera
04.06.19, 13: 02
it's done - for whatever reason - the software didn't want my account statement. i sent a phone bill in the same way as the bank statement and they were happy with that.

Glumbi
04.06.19, 15: 33
Nice to hear that it still worked. So far only had good experiences with ecopayz when setting up the account.

playtime spielo
27.06.19, 13: 31
I've now reached the second level (Vip Gold), didn't think it would take almost three years to send 25K to dealers. :character0010:

I haven't seen any real benefit yet. So far I only know that the double payment limit of 3x 500€ daily at ATMs now applies!

Glumbi
27.06.19, 13: 48
I'm still a long way from gold status, but I've rarely used eco lately.

Ulken
02.07.19, 15: 18
I also used it once, it was very useful, I reached the Gold Vip level after a short time because hardly any coal had to be transported for it, which was reached quite quickly.

Glumbi
31.07.19, 15: 14
There will be a change in the fees shortly, it probably only affects AE cards, it shouldn't affect that much here, but it's still a hefty increase.


https://www.playtime-forum.info/forum/images/imported/2019/07/bd43e242ce-1.jpg

Ulken
01.08.19, 09: 06
Ok good to know if that counts for my black AE too?

Glumbi
01.08.19, 10: 43
Black American Express all right, you wouldn't believe that yourself.

Ulken
05.08.19, 12: 45
Oh Glumbi you have no idea how to make good money. But I'm not mad at you.

Glumbi
05.08.19, 13: 06
No, you're right, unfortunately I can't do it like you. But I don't have to.

Ulken
07.08.19, 12: 11
We have to have a good chat, Glumbi, maybe something sensible will come of it.

Glumbi
07.08.19, 12: 33
No, you don't leave a need, everything fits.

Ulken
10.08.19, 15: 36
Yes, they all say that until they know more, you don't just have to make an offer.

Glumbi
13.08.19, 15: 50
Today I received an email that the 2-step verification must be activated shortly and that it is no longer possible to log in without it. Here is the message, I removed my personal information.



https://www.playtime-forum.info/forum/images/imported/2019/08/3ee22616a3-1.jpg

gamblejohn
13.08.19, 16: 25
Got it today, I'm curious how it goes. You don't have to change anything right?

Glumbi
13.08.19, 16: 33
If your data is all up-to-date, you don't have to do anything. I have updated my phone number, which is obviously very important for the procedure, and there was still an old cell phone number in it.

playtime slotti
13.08.19, 18: 41
But you can fix that today, and I did it today.

Ulken
14.08.19, 10: 03
Hm okay good to know then have to check it out afterwards.

Gambler
14.08.19, 10: 28
Thanks for the tip, I think my number is no longer up-to-date either.

MaryP
14.08.19, 16: 39
Okay, something new again, I'll take a look.

Glumbi
14.08.19, 17: 24
I already activated the procedure today, it's already working like slotti already said.

Ulken
15.08.19, 18: 38
Everything has been done so far everything worked.

Glumbi
26.09.19, 10: 39
Some news from ecopayz:



https://forum.playtime-forum.info/images/imported/2019/09/1a12ae577c-1.jpg
https://forum.playtime-forum.info/images/imported/2019/09/08cbc44a0c-1.jpg

Ulken
26.09.19, 14: 36
Something new again, I soon don't know my way around anymore because of all the providers.

Gambler
02.10.19, 14: 35
Thanks, I hadn't read that either.

Glumbi
02.10.19, 14: 54
It should just be here for information, you can see that when you log in to ecopayz.

MaryP
07.10.19, 15: 03
Thanks again for the tip!

Glumbi
12.10.19, 08: 19
I often had the problem that I couldn't log in, it didn't work because the code couldn't be sent to me via SMS, for whatever reason. But after a couple of tries it worked.

playtime slotti
12.10.19, 09: 43
I often had the problem that I couldn't log in, it didn't work because the code couldn't be sent to me via SMS, for whatever reason. But after a couple of tries it worked.

Why, the code is sent via authenticator. And if the code doesn't work, you have to synchronize the time correction under settings.

Glumbi
12.10.19, 09: 53
So I get a code via SMS on my cell phone and it didn't arrive and on the PC I got an error message that there was an error, after updating it once or twice it usually works.

playtime spielo
12.10.19, 09: 55
In general, a very big improvement that they came up with. Is the same for me, that the code doesn't fit, you constantly need your mobile phone to log in, what are these measures supposed to do? Can't you let the customer decide for himself which protection is the best!

Glumbi
12.10.19, 09: 57
Similar story when logging into the Postbank account since the changeover, if I'm on the PC and want to log in, I have to release it on the cell phone first.. full of crap.

playtime slotti
12.10.19, 11: 45
So I get a code via SMS on my cell phone and it didn't arrive and on the PC I got an error message that there was an error, after updating it once or twice it usually works.

You can also change the two-factor authentication method in the account itself. But you would also have to load the Google Authenticator onto your cell phone if that happens with SMS more often.

playtime slotti
12.10.19, 11: 48
Similar story when logging into the Postbank account since the changeover, if I'm on the PC and want to log in, I have to release it on the cell phone first.. full of crap.

Do I have to release my online banking with Photo TAN first? It's unfamiliar at first but ultimately serves to ensure safety, although I've never had any problems before.

Glumbi
13.10.19, 16: 54
It's ok, but I've never had any problems before and that's why the whole thing didn't bring me any added value, except for the security that the banks call it, okay.

Gambler
16.10.19, 07: 22
I also find the new procedures sometimes very tedious and annoying, but that's definitely the way it is and that's why I'm happy to accept it.

Glumbi
19.10.19, 09: 54
Well before it was safe too, never had a problem with banking and such.

Ulken
21.10.19, 13: 58
If someone wants to get into the account who can do something, he always comes in anyway... that's why

Glumbi
22.10.19, 08: 00
Only those guys who can do that will rarely try to get into the account with us normal little fish, what do they want to grab the couple of hundred or sometimes a couple of thousand bucks that doesn't interest them.

Ulken
28.10.19, 10: 19
With you it's probably so goofy, with me it looks different, I'm already worried because there aren't just a few hundred lying around here.

Glumbi
28.10.19, 16: 38
Well of course you are, I think you'll have it under control, see you as a pro.

Gambler
04.11.19, 08: 52
If you save larger sums of money, you are of course more interested in security than if you have nothing in your account.

Glumbi
04.11.19, 09: 20
What are you trying to tell me? Is my account empty? It's correct. :banana:

Glumbi
21.11.19, 18: 54
There is a fee change at ecoPayz, here is an overview




https://forum.playtime-forum.info/images/imported/2019/11/d697168d83-1.jpg